If you were to order another rifle expect minimum of 5-6 months. This is a direct quote told to me by an upper Spikes employee.

I wont do 6 months if thats the case. IF I do it I will do as you and order parts from dealers and build myself until wait times are shorter.

In two weeks, it will be 1 year and 2 months since I ordered my 5.56 Compressor.

Wow. That just seems a way too long. I'm sure you've called, has customer service given you any reason for the long wait?

Could have something to do with the 6-8 month wait for the NFA forms.

It has nothing at all to do with that. The form to transfer to my dealer in my state has not even started yet, as well as then the form to transfer to me. The guns are still not done. i have a feeling by the time I actually get it in my hands, it's going to have been ~3 years from time I ordered to time I receive. It'll be one fun gun though, and besides....I have plenty of others to keep my busy for the time being anyways.

When I was at Spikes T. I read somewhere at Spikes that there policy is that all NFA paper work must be complete before spikes will start the actual build . They would be up a creek if they built a NFA weapon and then waited on the paper because if you were not approved then they would have wasted time and money on a custom build . The paper work must clear NFA first before they send work order to be built .
NOW if your dealer orders one for his shop under his FFL in his name thats different. He would then after recieving it have to have you complete your NFA paperwork and get you approved before he could transfer it to you unless he just trust you =but I believe thats illegal.
So you better contact your dealer directly cause it sounds you have been missed- directed or forgotten or the NFA wait time is monumentally long . and / or :
Also its possible you have been red flagged ( all kinds of possible reasons for red flagging ) by the department of Agriculture lic. dept. or ATF and they may need more info before they process . So check with them too.

LOOK im no expert and dont claim to know it all . Just trying to help ! NFA ITEMS AND RULES TAKE ON A WHOLE NEW SET OF ISSUES AND BYLAWS DEEP AND FAR REACHING . SPIKES SHOULD KNOW .GOODLUCK TO YOU!

You are incorrect. That is not how the NFA process works at all.

My dealer IS Spikes, and I have spoken with them roughly every month during this wait, and have always been kept updated on my order. NO ONE...I repeat...NO ONE has gotten their Compressors yet. It is basically still in production and the uppers are the last thing they are waiting on currently. It has nothing to do with me being red flagged by the ATF.

For what it's worth, I'm not new to NFA purchases, and have 12 items currently pending right now with them on Form 1s and 4s, ranging from suppressors to SBRs to 2 machine guns.

Mike

I might be wrong sir depending ?. Never said I knew it all . I did read that at spikes ( on my pior message) ,and the rest is how it was explained to me from another dealer.
So Im to understand your saying they will build NFA- firearms before your paper work is processed ? Maybe If they dont mind having the overhead cost in case you were not approved I guess they could build first if they chose to. Also because you have bought NFA items before thru spikes they have your apps on file so that changes things as compared to being the first time buyer of a NFA item and state lines-plus they are now familiar with you.
IT dont take 14 months to build a rifle or to wait on parts. any further delays in my opinion would have to be with NFA paperwork. I would not build a house for someone if I did not know they were pre-approved to own one first (speaking of NFA only). And no matter if you were approved before on other NFA items , things can change with regulations and your private background check record that may have a effect on your recent order. Personally NO SBR OR FULL AUTO is worth that kind of wait time. I mean no disrepect and as said before just trying to help. good luck to you sir.

Ok...I'm not trying to be an ass, but really...please, call up Spikes and ask them about the Compressor wait before you post anymore, and also cal up the ATF to ask them about the process. I can tell that you probably have never messed with the NFA process. It is not as scary and up in the air as you are making it sound, and you are spreading false information. It DOES take 14+ months to build a gun when it is still in development, and I'm pretty sure I was not the first one to place an order so others have been waiting longer. I'm perfectly fine with that. I have plenty to keep me busy for now.

I DO NOT start my Form 4 transfer to me until my local Class 3 dealer (In Texas) receives the Compressor from Spikes on a form 3. An SBR and suppressor combo is the same process as if you buy any other NFA item from out of state. The builder honestly does not care and should not care if you get approved. You pay for the item, then in is transfered to your local in state dealer, then they transfer it to you. If you don't get approved, then it is your loss pretty much, and you and the local dealer will have to work something out.

Nothing major has changed with the NFA process since I last sent out my last Form 4 a month ago. I also do not have a background check done for me, because I get these things on my trust.

I know you are trying to help, and thank you, but really, call up Spikes and the ATF to learn about the process a little better and about the Compressor a little better before posting anymore. You are misinformed.

Well, I ordered a M4 LE carbine from Spikes Tactical about a week ago and I thought it would come in about 2-3 months. Then I get an email today that says I have to wait 6-8 months because their vendors are out of lower recievers. I was like"What!" so I came here to see if anybody knows how long it would take Spikes Tactical to get those lowers. It is a great rifle, but I am not going to wait for 6-8 months on a rifle that was supposed to be made in 2-3. Im giving consideration of canceling my order, but Ive worked too hard to get the money and I just cant cancel without any other knowledge from other customers. If someone wont mind, what would be some good advice on this issue?

Well I can confirm the email. I was told directly from a Spikes higher up employee that the order time was at least 6 months. That was a couple of weeks ago so it sounds like it has gotten worse since then. I can tell you though, you will not find a higher quality AR platform on the market at this same price point. Ive been lucky enough to find all of my Spikes parts from friends in the business, online & at gun shows. The parts are out there if you decide to cancel your order. Hope this helps.

when i ordered i was told 6-8 weeks and its looking more like 6-8 months.

the parts are out there but you have to look for them. spike's may not have them to build your rifle but they are flowing to the dealers that go out of stock quickly in most cases.

can we extrapolate 6-8 months will turn to years? maybe so. you can build a bigger building and hire more workers but will the vendors increase production enough to reduce lead times or even deliver on time?

great rifles for sure but worth waiting years for? i think not.

I agree that the wait time is long.

The website clearly states they are unable to give an estimate on the wait time do to back orders.

If people are still getting on the website and dropping a grand or more up front for a rifle with an unknown wait period why would they stop taking orders.?.?

Stopping the incoming flow of revenue may not be a feasible option for them right now.

Well sir quit your complaining since you are so informed and ok with your wait times ! And I believe we are saying the same thing basicly. Agree disagree either way the bottom line is and my point you dont get the weapon till NFA processes paperwork. If this was your first NFA ORDER you would have to go thru the app process that is no charm and is a bit more precise than a trust already been given with which you did not mention in earlier post for me to know. ITS very different the first time .and IF spikes builds first fine but i did read all NFA paperwork must be complete before build .So if they changed that then ok. but your not getting that rifle unless it passes ATF. And what started this was you bitchen about your wait time and not knowing why it was taking so long . And I only proposed that the PAPERWORK was likely the reasons sir. Because I thought only a fool would wait 14 months or more on just the build alone.